Poor empty theater Quibi, showing their “quick bites” to people who aren’t hungry like Facebook, WarnerMedia and Apple. Or so the article below is saying.
The Information reported, “Over the past few weeks, Katzenberg has pitched several tech and entertainment executives about buying Quibi, only to be turned down. Among those he approached was Eddy Cue, Apple’s senior vice president of internet software and services, and WarnerMedia CEO Jason Kilar, according to people familiar with the situation. He and his partner in Quibi, former HP CEO Meg Whitman, also made formal presentations to executives at other tech companies, including Fidji Simo, head of the Facebook app, only to get rejected there as well, the people said.”
Of the three rejecting suitors, only the last one makes any kind of sense, but let’s take them one at a time.
WarnerMedia – Quibi would be of little help for HBO Max. Maybe some of their content would be worthwhile, but why pay premium for it? Wait for the fire sale. This is an easy pass.
Facebook? They are focused on VR right now and Quibi doesn’t have any VR content (at least to my knowledge). They also don’t seem to want to be in the streaming movie & TV space, so a Quibi acquisition makes less than zero sense.
Apple – this is one I’ve already mentioned could help by adding to their sparse library of content for AppleTV+. The problem, and just guessing here, is the price tag. Same as WarnerMedia, wait for the fire sale.
There are other issues that makes buying Quibi unattractive, like the infringement lawsuit for the flipscreen feature. It’s an cool feature for techie movie fans, but the vast majority of non-techie subscribers probably could care less.
Bottom line: Quibi is going to have to lower the price tag, find some way to increase their subscriber count (good luck!) and try again later.
Should we start speculating what next week’s “big announcement” will be for DC Universe? Sure, I’ll bite, after the jump.
Lee made the announcement via Twitter, after congratulating DC Universe’s Doom Patrol on being renewed for Season 3. “Stay tuned next week for big news about @thedcuniverse and it’s [sic] exciting future!” Lee wrote.
Although a criminally bad decision if it doesn’t happen, we can rule out a HQ Season 3 greenlight announcement since WarnerMedia has already stated there will be no new original shows on DCU, so it must have something to do with just how committed they are to DCU going forward (see: Jim Lee on DC Universe: “It’s definitely not going away”)
Anybody else want to guess what this news will be? The comments are waiting below.
Tenet apparently didn’t do the $20 million that was reported. It’s half that, which could threaten another delay for Wonder Woman 1984 release in October. Dune, which has a pretty cool looking trailer, is also at risk.
Warners did not break down the $20.2 million total by days, or by country. However, according to multiple sources, Canada’s initial Wednesday-Sunday grossed $2.6 million. Based on normal play, Labor Day likely brought in about $2.5 million. In the U.S., there were limited shows August 30-September 2, followed by a full day on Thursday, September 3; a fair guess for that period is $5 million. That comes to around $10 million, leaving “Tenet” about about the same for its actual opening three day weekend in North America.
Still, $10 million in box office sales for Tenet considering the number of theaters that haven’t reopened and the number of moviegoers that haven’t gone back yet isn’t “mediocre” as the article states. Also, don’t forget the $100+ million in international revenue.
Assuming those numbers aren’t faked.
One reason I’m not a political blogger — and likely couldn’t be, frankly — is pure disgust at the phony environment. Here we are a couple short months from a presidential election and who seriously knows what to trust from the media regarding both presidential candidates. Everything seems overblown and with exclamation !!!! marks !!!! At some point, you become breathless reading about so many different panic modes. Voters can analyze President Trump’s impulsive, sanity-stretched rule over the last four years and Biden’s 40+ year political record (and the fact he looks at death’s door), but it’s difficult to gauge the unbiased truth from the media about either candidate. Can you?
And, more relevant to this site, we’re in the midst of an event we’ve not experienced before in my lifetime and not even the entertainment sector is safe from spin.
Spin, spin, spin.
Making box-office gross available is a norm, but it’s not a requirement. Studios made the collective judgment decades ago that the reports provide more positive energy for successful films than harm for the bad ones, but the horse-race aspects often create the impression that the immediate response determines a film’s value. For “Tenet,” Warners decided to buck tradition and withhold information, thereby avoiding much of the rush to judgment. It also allows the studio greater capacity to spin.
This seems like we were being setup to accept falsehoods involving the actual box office states. Unbelievable – and yet in 2020 nothing seems to be.
We don’t know what the streaming viewing numbers are, because Netflix doesn’t use third party analytics and the closest they’ll come to telling us is their top 10 list. This list, they say — and we are supposed to believe them — is the popularity of movie and TV shows on their service. Hulu claimed an Andy Samberg movie was one of their top movies (see: 15+ Palm Springs Reviews – Samberg Still Isn’t Funny), but was it? Where is the independent verification?
Too much of what we see and read in 2020 is spin and it’s disappointing. We don’t have independent, third party verification much any more. Instead, we have some popular website or organization saying they have “inside sources” and that makes news. We have the companies themselves reporting popularity of shows they paid to create. We are, literally, trusting what we’re being told, not what really is happening.
I don’t mean to be the cynic here, but the amount of news I’m reading that I believe is 100% accurate is very, very small.
All this to say, we don’t know exactly what the true Tenet numbers are in the United States. Warner Bros. provided part of the story. We don’t know what Mulan’s numbers behind the premium gated VOD wall of Disney+ either, but we’re hearing it’s doing very well. We’ll just have to take Disney’s word for that.
Oceanfront property is raging in Arizona right now.
It’s Saturday, August 22, and DC FanDome time starting at 10am PT … or possibly now by the time you read this. I’m going to be checking this virtual event out at least part of today.
(The other part? We’re going back to the movie theater to watch some new movies! YAY!)
Have seen some ads for $5 digital deals on buying DC movies circulating through Roku and some publications, see the quote below, are doing detailed dives on the merchandising offerings.
Highlights include the best of Wonder Woman 1984 lifestyle products, a LEGO shop, EleVen by Venus Williams x Wonder Woman exclusives, and DRAWN: Black DC Super Heroes with Ken Lashley and Denys Cowan art. Superhero fans won’t want to miss this opportunity to own merch from around the world to create or expand their personal DC collection. (Quantities are limited and may sell out fast — some are only for sale for the first 24 hours).
Don’t think I’ll be buying any Wonder Woman gold shoes for $100 or going in on the LEGO Batman VISA card (one credit card for me, with a small credit limit, suits me just fine), but maybe there are some other deals that will interest. I’ll check it out.
As for shopping? Meh. I’m not a big merch guy. Sure, if I go see a concert I spring for the way overpriced concert T, and I usually want to buy something to remember an event for, but a virtual event? It’s not the same as saying “I was there” — and honestly buying or collecting crap that just gathers dust and becomes something to throw away or sell down the road? Not my idea of money well spent.
Buying any of the DC movies for $5? Maybe Wonder Woman would interest me at that price. We have it on HBO Max right now, so owning it to rewatch isn’t really that compelling. Also, I’m guessing down the road there will be some sort of bundle pack for WW1984 and WW at a special price. We just don’t buy that many movies any more.
What DC FanDome events are you most looking forward to?
How many of you are attending DC FanDome today? Any noteworthy panels, discussions or live events you are especially interested in?
Share with us in the comments. We don’t want to miss something exciting, entertaining and/or fun!
Insiders also say the majority of the staff of the streaming service DC Universe has been laid off, a move that had been widely expected as WarnerMedia shifts its focus to new streaming service HBO Max.
“DC Universe was DOA as soon as the AT&T merger happened,” said one source.
Hopefully the “source” is wrong about DCU being “DOA” (Dead On Arrival). Keep it around for at least the wide selection of comic books. Will continue to push for that from our tiny, relatively insignificant — but growing, hey! — web crevice.
Saw another article the other day — no sources cited, so probably not credible — saying that DC Universe had around only 50,000 paid subscribers. Don’t believe the numbers are that low. We’re one of them, having gotten in at a lower monthly price deal at the end of 2019, but it just seems to me that they must have at least a couple hundred thousand paid subscribers for their comics … yes/no?
Even though Stargirl’s first season is now finished, we’re staying subscribed to see what comes out of the FREE virtual event, DC FanDome on Saturday August 22, 2020. Presumably, we’ll find out from the source what is happening with DCU. Will be posting more about that in the not too distant future.
Now, could be wrong, but despite the layoffs, I don’t think WarnerMedia is going to shut down DCU.
Will the service be changed? That much seems all but a certainty. My money is on it being a comics-only service, perhaps even with a bundling deal with HBO Max (which would promote HBO Max, so it plays into WarnerMedia’s strategy).
Anime is popular in 2020. Is it bigger from a streaming site subscription than the comic book subscriptions? I don’t know.
We’ve all heard people saying they hate reading, so maybe that has something to do with it. One you can watch that makes you think, the other your read and makes you think. One is clearly more passive than the other.
Also, there are videogames. Anime and videogames go together perhaps even better — because of active audience participation — than comic book adaptations to movie or TV shows. Clearly, Crunchyroll has videogames going for it, too.
Warnermedia is a hydra with many different businesses, some competing with each other for subscribers. It’s tough when you compete against yourself, but a company as large as their parent AT&T is no doubt going to have some tiger eating their own conflicts.
Their solution on HBO Max for Crunchyroll was to have a curated section, a best of Crunchyroll, which could be an attractive add-on for Max subscribers, but not pull away from Crunchyroll.
This strategy is working.
In an interview with Deadline, Waage declined to speculate on the broader strategy of WarnerMedia in streaming, but she said “the goal is to fuel both” Crunchyroll and HBO Max. “We believe we can grow this area by exposing people to it,” she added. “Dramatic animation is in its infancy … We are Fox 30 years ago with The Simpsons. This is a category that will only grow.”
With Crunchyroll adding subscribers it’s a different circumstance than DC Universe which might be holding even or losing paid subscribers based on the wide amount of negative publicity we’ve seen.
The difference is HBO Max has what DCU subscribers feel is more and better movie and TV content than DCU. A lot of the people seem to be heading to HBO Max for the movie and TV content and don’t see the value in keeping DCU.
Frustrating that the comic books aren’t being considered, but it isn’t a curated DCU comic books — which would have been a cool idea had HBO Max done that — instead they basically gutted DCU of the bulk of the movies they had.
Still, I’m reminded that DC Universe have like 24,000+ DC Comics. They have an active community around the comics and it’s more than just the animated movies, live action and TV shows.
I can see subscribers who want DC movies and TV shows only and don’t care as much about comics might find paying for a DC Universe subscription less desirable.
As for Crunchyroll? I know almost nothing about their site except that they do anime. I like anime but it’s not something I’d put in my top five genres of movies. I’ve seen some absolutely killer anime and have covered some anime here at this blog.
What I don’t understand, and maybe this is something a reader can help me with is why isn’t there as much excitement around comics? There are anime comics, so is that niche all self-contained and doesn’t carry over to the big companies DC and Marvel?
Maybe HBO Max should rethink how they do the DC Universe section of HBO Max and include a “best of” curated comics for HBO Max subscribers? This would be a great tie-in for HBO Max subscribers buying a subscription to DCU.
It just seems strange to me that HBO Max took two different strategies with how they handled Crunchyroll and DCU. The former is working and driving new subscribers whiel the latter is driving anger and frustration. At least from a segment of the subscriber base, those of us who see the value in the comic books aren’t as upset about the circumstance.
I think the biggest problem with WarnerMedia is communication. They haven’t communicated to their paid customers what they want to do with DCU. The sooner they can make their intentions known there the better. Are they leaving DCU to run the way it is? Are they closing DCU? Merging it entirely with HBO Max? Making DCU a comics-only subscription portal? Customers deserve to know what’s going on.
At least Crunchyroll subscribers know where they stand. Business is good there.
It’s not just cable TV subscribers, but WarnerMedia needs badly to simply what they are doing with their HBO brand. It seems to me like they are trying to put all their eggs in the HBO Max basket, which is a good package — if you can access it.
Aye, there’s the rub.
In case you didn’t already know, it’s about to get very confusing on Roku for HBO Go customers, and maybe even impossible when that is removed as of July 1, 2020. Even though I’ve read multiple articles, and consider myself fairly intelligent, I don’t completely understand what the heck is going on with HBO Go.
It’s going away, sort of, in place of HBO Max. HBO wants to just have one HBO which is HBO Max, but as we’ve already written about here several times: there is no HBO Max on Roku right now, nor is it on Amazon Fire. There is HBO Now, which is contains a fraction of the overall HBO Max content.
If you want to watch HBO Max on your TV, the simplest way to do it is to sign up directly and use Chromecast. I gave up that fight recently, and that’s where I ended. Others might not feel as compelled to go out and pay $29 for Chromecast, subscribe directly to streaming channels and pay for cable TV (wouldn’t blame anybody who thinks that way, btw).
It gets dicey if you already subscribe to HBO through your cable company. I’m feeling for you folks, because again, I don’t understand how you get the new HBO (HBO Max) without dropping HBO and just signing up directly and using Chromecast? You can read the article quoted below and maybe you’ll glean some kind of knowledge of what to do.
WarnerMedia will be replacing HBO NOW with a rebranded HBO App, but cable authentication isn’t supported. That means in order for cable customers (and those who subscribed via Roku) will have to access HBO content through their cable company’s platform. If you already created a HBO Max account, you may be able to use your log-in to access HBO Now.
I think most of our readers here don’t have cable TV, but that’s just a guess. And at least a good percentage of those readers probably have at least one streaming account.
But that’s just a guess, as I don’t have any scientific data to back that up. The comments section below provides a chance for you to tell me if you still have cable TV. Anyway, if you do, and want to keep cable TV (I’m interested to hear why anybody does want to pay for that any more, but that’s not meant as any kind of diss), then what do you recommend to others who have cable TV and want to enjoy HBO Max?
This too many HBO brand conflicts needs to end. What would you tell your friends o do who want to watch HBO Max? I’m telling them, just get Chromecast and sign up directly.