Commissioner Gordon contacts the president and says he’s taken down the Injustice League. The president replies that there is one criminal left to deal with before “Gotham can be put back on the map” – Harley Quinn.
Harley & Ivy are sitting in the lair and talk about the kiss. It was just an impetuous moment is how they play it off and Harley kisses Dr. Psycho who spits out and says, “Ew! I’m not your type!”
Batgirl stops by to warn Harley and team. She quick kisses Batgirl because she “kisses people for no reason.”
Harley wants to amass an evil army. Meanwhile Poison Ivy and Kite Man are having dinner with Kite Man’s snooty parents. Kite Man only wants their approval, but they are disappointed in him for not having “real” superpowers.
Harley, Clayface, King Shark and Dr. Psycho access an inter-dimensional portal to face off against a super-villain in order to gain access to an evil army at the request of Darksied.
Will Harley & crew win the battle and command the army against Gordon and the Gotham police?
Will Ivy have a showdown with Kite Man’s parents or just deal with their awkward approval of Kite Man and her as a couple? Will Harley tell Ivy her true feelings or just keep making up excuses?
These questions answered and more, just tune in and check it out season 2, episode 8!
This episode has everything that’s great about this show packed in a mega-entertaining watch: a mission with the crew, tension, villains to defeat, the fate of Gotham hanging in the balance, a battle of good vs. sorta evil (Harley & team) vs. true evil. The signature snappy banter, Harley nervously avoiding her true feelings for Ivy and Kite Man trying to gain acceptance from his disapproving parents. Yeah, this is a gold star episode and one of the best of the two seasons. Top three for me to date.
When posting my review for Harley Quinn S2:E7 “There’s No Place To Go But Down” I intentionally avoided discussing the kiss. I didn’t want to spoil others seeing that pivotal moment in the episode and series, but more time has now passed (and hopefully those interested have seen the episode), so I do have many thoughts on what happened and want to expand.
So many things to cover on essentially less than one minute of animated film. It’s power packed emotional seconds in film.
If you haven’t seen S2:E7 yet, and want to, this post is one you should probably come back to after watching the entire episode. If you have, then this is where we’ll discuss the kiss.
… you’ve been warned, SPOILERS ahead …
Harley and Ivy’s kiss was long overdue, yes, but Harley Quinn ended up delivering it within the context of a story that made it impossible not to understand their love as anything but deeply felt and like something that’s going to last. The one sad thing, though, is that someone’s going to have to let Kite Man know that…it’s just not going to work out for him again.
So here are some screen caps of the kiss and the aftermath, however brief, but telling.
Cheating on Kite Man with Harley sure looks very bad for these two very close characters, but maybe it’s something that happened in the moment that neither could resist. That they’ve been wanting to do this before Kite Man was ever in the picture and the emotional moment of Ivy saving Harley from the fall in the pit was what triggered this passionate moment.
Now, take a look at their immediate reaction afterwards:
No doubt that they both look … something. What did we just do? That’s the caption, I guess.
Now watch the entire scene in its entirety to absorb the full scene:
When it is over as the end credits roll, it’s complete silence as if to pay tribute to … what, Kite Man?
The obvious missing third wheel.
Where is Kite Man?
The scene would have played even more dramatic if it panned to Kite Man watching this happen.
Maybe that emotional betrayal moment still happens in some way in the next episode? Or maybe this is a topic that neither Harley or Ivy discuss right away, they backburner it out of guilt? We don’t know how it is all going to play out yet.
I found it curious that the episode didn’t cover Kite Man at all, other than a brief couple sentences from Ivy saying how she finally found someone she wanted to marry and was stuck in a pit. At least part of Ivy’s motivation, with her friend Harley helping, was to get out so Ivy could get to her future married life with Kite Man.
Our “Hell Yeah” friend, Kite Man, is completely absent from the trial. Why didn’t they pan to him in the audience at least? Maybe he’s crying when the sentencing is read(?). Wouldn’t he be standing by his lover, Ivy? Where was he? What could be more important in his life than being there? Again, we haven’t been told, so hopefully these questions are answered in a future episode. His absence in this episode is puzzling and problematic because viewers are going to feel badly for him. He didn’t do anything wrong and he’s being cheated on.
Ivy needs to talk to Kite Man and explain she has deeper feelings for Harley than just friends. Maybe Ivy has strong feelings for both of them, but she needs to make a choice … or maybe she’ll choose to live happily ever after with both. This is 2020, why not?
I think the titles of the remaining episodes leave a clue as to what might happen, so for those interested, you can seek out those title names on the future schedule on our TV Series Reviews page and draw your own conclusions.
So far the show has done an amazing job telling the story and I, too, would like to be surprised.
Do I want Kite Man and Ivy to get together over Harley and Ivy? I think the crowd pleasing favorite is Harley & Ivy and that would be more in line with the comics, but this series is playing fast and loose with the characters and history, so who knows? They are killing off established characters and essentially creating their own DC Universe.
I’m hoping whatever happens there remains energy and interest for more seasons. The producers discussed having ideas for future seasons if Warner Bros. will greenlight additional seasons, so I think the creative team would be up to it. Even if Warner Bros. came out today and said another season was approved, I’m guessing we wouldn’t see it until at least 2022.
But if they can finance $20-30+ million to release the Snyder Cut, they surely can approve more seasons of this excellent show. It might be smart from a business standpoint to see how the whole HBO Max launch goes later this month and reassess where DC Universe sits, too, when the pandemic winds down more. That’s a fair guess of where this is likely headed.
What did you think of Harley & Ivy’s kiss?
Was this just a brief moment in time where they did something they won’t ever do again? Will they ultimately end up together? Or is it a threesome with Kite Man? Whatever we speculate, we’ll probably be at least partly wrong, but it can be fun to guess where things might be headed.
Harley Quinn Season 2, Episode 8 debuts tomorrow exclusively on DC Universe, Friday May 22, 2020 @ 6am PT (GMT-8). Review to follow.
Bane as judge, Harley on trial for murder of the Injustice League members and their incomprehensible attorney that nobody shrieks at will, opposing attorney is Two Face Harley Dent.
A problematic drinker Jim Gordon joined by Batgirl, as they bond in the sewers looking for Ratcatcher.
Harley & Poison are sentenced and condemned to a hole known as The Pit (“for the criminally capable”) by Judge Bane, who then falls into The Pit with them. Killer Croc is down there too, knitting caps for them. They work on plan to escape the hole.
Gordon continues wallowing in his drink when Two Face comes to kill him with two goons. Batgirl appears with a not-so-surprising revelation.
Stand-up comedy moment starring George Lopez with Bane as the MC. Poison Ivy takes the microphone and is heckled by others.
Does Ivy’s stand-up routine start a riot so Harley and her can escape? Will Jim Gordon stop drinking and get his act together? Is George Lopez going to have another killer set in The Pit? To learn these answers and more, tune in!
The episode continues after Harley & Ivy’s capture and begins with an extremely short trial (would have been fun to have more of that trial explored and some Perry Mason moments).
The Gordon and Batgirl side story doesn’t have much juice in the beginning but really picks up by the end. One of those stories where they get captured and have a goofy plan to escape, yet it is missing any assistance from Harley’s crew (where are they?) And I’m feeling some real Frank The Plant withdrawal symptoms.
There is a mini-shocker at the end but something we’ve seen telegraphed. Still, it adds a star to what was going to be a sub three star rating for me. Just a little bit too much thrown at the wall and see what sticks feel to this episode although it does sort of come together by the end.
My favorite parts were the opening trial, the stand-up comedy by Poison Ivy and the last few seconds. The George Lopez cameo is under-utilized. What happens in The Pit stays in The Pit.
Episode 6 – “All The Best Inmates Have Daddy Issues”
Harley and Ivy sharing some girl bar talk and a game of Marry F**K Kill when Harley spots a familiar face.
Harley tells Ivy that the bartender shares a striking resemblance in makeup to … JOKER. Ivy doesn’t see the resemblance at all.
Harley then explains that it must be him, because she saw it on WayneTube, and then shares the phone image with Ivy.
They confront the bartender, but don’t say anything to him about his familiarity to Joker. Then, there is a flashback to Arkham with Dr. Harleen Quinzel first arrival. A locked up Poison Ivy is going off, tearing up guards with plants. Ivy is tranquilized.
Harley is tasked with psychoanalyzing the imprisoned Joker and trying to find the location of a hidden bomb threatening Gotham.
Will Joker give up the location of the bomb? How do Harley and Ivy develop their relationship? What happens with Joker? You’ll need to tune into this episode to learn this and more.
Am not normally into flashbacks, but this one was great. It wasn’t just there to eat up episode time, it covers some important backstory we haven’t been given to date in the series and there is a nice subplot involving Joker and Two-Face.
Nice to see how Harley and Ivy met and how they became friends. The whole whether or not Joker is back? Whatever is the outcome (you’ll have to watch), the show would be better having his maniacal laugh around. Two-Face representing in both his flashback version with his face normal and present day monstrous appearance.
No Clayface Frank the Plant (we need our dose of Frank! Where is his back story?) and very little Dr. Psycho.
This episode is much stronger than the last one. Certainly in my top 10 of the 19 total episodes seen to date.
There are seven more episodes of this excellent series remaining. TGIF, an awesome way to ring in the weekend with a new Harley Quinn episode. Recommended.
Hilarious opening scene with two random trolls bashing Harley’s show on their TV, lamenting the fact that there isn’t enough Batman. One is wearing a shirt that says “Release The Snyder Cut” and the other’s says, “The Last Jedi is not cannon”
Ex-commissioner Gordon visits Bruce Wayne begging Batman to come back and restore order to the city. He shows video of the wannabe heroes trying to take over in Batman’s absence, including Batgirl.
Meanwhile, Two-Face and Bane are chatting about Harley Quinn becoming an additional threat to them and wondering if they should maybe join forces with her to help stave off external forces (like Batman).
Will Batman come back and restore order?
The biggest miss in this episode is a show with Harley Quinn not having any, I mean zero seconds of, Harley. Yes, it’s great for Batman fans seeing him and Batgirl, but no Harley or Ivy in a show with her name is taking a big risk.
Didn’t work for me.
Mediocre episode after the awesome opening sequence. If I want to watch Batman, I’ll check out plenty of other animated Batman. I’m watching this show for Harley Quinn! Never was that much into Batgirl. Bane gets some good screentime, but this episode seems like it was designed to give Harley and Ivy a vacation.
Didn’t work for me. My least favorite episode of the series to date — both seasons. Here’s to hoping next week we get back to Harley on her own show.
Harley and team equipped with the stolen flamethrower from episode 3 are entering Mr. Freeze icy lair to enact revenge.
While traveling through the tunnel entrance, they learn via text message (really?) that Ivy has accepted Kite Man’s marriage proposal.
They dispatch the frosty henchmen easily, with King Shark chomping heads and Harley using the razory edge of her ice skates to decapitate at will.
Mr. Freeze arrives and easily freezes and captures the crew. We learn that Mr. Freeze is experimenting on mice trying to find a cure for his dying wife. His new plan is to graduate from mice to humans and use Harley and her crew as the first human experiment (the mice are glad! lol).
Harley strikes a deal on the table.
Ivy is a genius biochemist, she can find a cure, begs Harley.
Meanwhile, Kite Man is obsessed with having their wedding at the Old Gotham Corn Factory that his nemesis Condiment King is also trying to secure.
You’ll have to tune in to find out what happens with Mr. Freeze’s wife as well as if Harley & crew escapes. Also, will Kite Man secure his coveted wedding venue? Will Harley understand what true love is about?
This episode showcases a lot of what makes this show outstanding. A simple story about revenge turns into an exploration of what true love means. Harley learns a lot about her relationship with Joker and what it truly lacked, even though he’s not even in the episode. We see Mr. Freeze as diabolical, but having a loving motive. This is one of the better episodes of the series and my favorite of season two so far.
Mr. Freeze’s fortress seems impenetrable, but Harley has an idea … she’ll use a flamethrower to break inside.
Dr. Trap is guarding the prized flamethrower at the museum that Harley & Ivy want to thwart his traps and steal. They enlist the help of Catwoman.
Kite Man is back and joining the trio of lady burglars. The catch is Kite Man is afraid of traps, although he is motivated by the prospect of breaking in and stealing a diamond ring that he can give to Ivy.
Harley finally sees a side of Kite Man that isn’t lame when he works through his fears to steal the ring for Ivy.
Kite Man’s poor timing has him on one knee and Ivy isn’t having it … and the ring is stolen, anyway, by Catwoman.
The flamethrower is there for the taking, but the second Harley grabs it, a final trap descends on Harley, Ivy and Kite Man. Will they escape from the trap? Now that Harley at least somewhat accepts Kite Man’s chivalry and feelings for Ivy, will the two tie the knot? You’ll have to tune into episode 3 to learn.
Bonus points for the last torturous minute of this episode, as it’s one of the better spots.
Last week, I didn’t comment on multiple changes from comic book canon the show took. This show has been doing that since it started, literally in the first couple minutes of the first episode when Harley jumps onto the boat and drops multiple f-bombs. I’m talking about Batwoman and Clayface, but rather than spoil what those character changes are, just rewatch episode 2 and see. If you aren’t that familiar with the comic book storylines for these characters, it isn’t that surprising. This show is just barely getting started in season two, we’re going to see even more character surprises.
Nice to see the return of Kite Man and his relationship with Ivy and how the intersects with Harley’s feelings for Ivy. A strong love triangle seems like it’s being setup here.
This rest of Harley’s team had a (very) weak subplot involving Dr. Psycho failing his one and only assignment, letting the Riddler escape the hamster power wheel. Frank the Plant does make a few comical appearances. We catch a couple brief moments of Clayface, King Shark and Psy, but this all seems more like something to cut away from the main heist story involving Harley, Ivy, Catwoman and Kite Man.
It was entertaining, but a little disjointed an episode with the flamethrower playing as (too much) of a mcguffin.
The ending, however, alone earns this three stars. Among the best character arc setups thus far in the series for Harley and Ivy, so adding another half star there.
Much better episodes overall in the series exist, but I liked the mission and ending, even if Catwoman and Dr. Trap were somewhat lame.